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Can we have some common sense here regarding Fed auction of SR Bitcoin?
There is so much irrational fear and baseless speculation here. 1) Seized assets are sold at government auctions open to the public. They will be announced well in advance of the auction. It won't be a 30 second warning then it hits the auction block. 2) Regarding #1, The central bank, the CIA, a government official, wells fargo 3) Seized assets often have reserves set at auction, reserves set by the federal agency responsible. 4) Seized assets are often broken into smaller lots. Why? Faster selling at prices closes to market value. The auction portion is outsourced to auction companies who have incentive to ensure property is auctioned for the highest value possible because they get paid on some transaction fee % 5) Regarding 3+4 above, the likelihood of all the bitcoins selling for far below fair market value is extremely low. The parties involved, do seized asset auctions for a living and know how to get the most for an item at auction. They will treat this as any other valuable item with a market and base their reserve prices and auction style decisions on that market. 6) This will effect the price regardless of who buys them and what they do with them afterward.(hold or dump) minimally and only in a very short term time frame. Yes even if they are immediately all dumped on open market. 7) This liquidation of assets won't happen any time soon. The assets will be researched and the market value determined. This will drive the decision to split it into lots or keep it whole. Then They have to give public notice of the auction. This process could realistically(considering how slow the government is) take months into years! 8) Everyone chill the fuck out!
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We know that DPR is not cooperating with the FBI, so how did they actually seize SR's bitcoins?
This has been bugging me. Even if they got access to the server and his pc, unless he had written down his wallet password somewhere on a post-it, how did the FBI send the bitcoins to their own address?
Is it just me or is SR's bitcoin value really slow or just off lately?
Over the past week or so I have carefully watched both the average value of a coin on SR, mt. gox, bitcoinity, and bitcoin.clarkmoody. Is it just me or is the value on SR always lower than the current price on any trading site, and by a far margin $10 at the moment. Ok. The price has jumped, and SR only updates the exchange rate at certain points in time. Maybe we missed it on the last update, but it will fix itself in the next exchange rate update. But honestly, I see this as an intentional move on DPR's part to make us spend use more coins then necessary, and therefore DPR is able to grab more coins which are worth almost 10% more than he has the site display. I'll be the first to admit that DPR has a great site and great motives as a libertarian, and his ideas on a free and open market place has probably saved countless lives. DPR and SR are and will continue to be my go to onion sites. But when do we put our foot down and say DPR, this is enough. First he changed the entire fee structure without asking or telling anyone first. Now hes undervaluing bitcoins on his site so that he can get more bitcoins that are worth 10% more on any trading site out there. Enough greed DPR, be happy with the behemoth of a money making machine you have already created and just allow us druggies to get their items of choice. Which is the entire purpose of the site in the first place, in his own words.
Wasn't there only a few million stored on the actual servers? It doesn't sound like they're auctioning off ross' private bitcoins (the 80 million or whatever) Edit: just did the math and it's more like 18 million. still it doesn't seem like this should have that great an impact on the price.
I'm not super paranoid about the SR process (though I do hold my breath until the package arrives safely) and have had many successful transactions. I typically transfer all of my coins to a web wallet through various means and then transfer from there to my SR wallet when I want to purchase something. Is it worth periodically changing my SR bitcoin address so I don't have as many coins flowing to the exact same address? I'm likely over-thinking things like so many of us do, but just wanted to get other opinions.
Can somebody explain the significance of the SRS bitcoin circlejerk?
It seems to come up a lot, but as someone who knows nothing about bitcoins and doesn't frequent subs where it is discussed, what's the deal? Is it just a stereotypical topic of discussion amongst STEMs or is there something deeper than that?
Can somebody explain the significance of the SRS bitcoin circlejerk? [bearsinthewoods]
bearsinthewoods posted: It seems to come up a lot, but as someone who knows nothing about bitcoins and doesn't frequent subs where it is discussed, what's the deal? Is it just a stereotypical topic of discussion amongst STEMs or is there something deeper than that?
What the Silk Road seizure means for bitcoins in SR wallets?
I'm hardly an expert in bitcoins, and even farther from an expert in the technical aspects of crypto... but: If LE was able to find DPR's computers, then I assume they could commandeer his bitcoins. But what about the rest of the bitcoins that were in people's SR wallets. Would those still be secure? (i.e. only accessible by the user who created the account under whose name the wallet was created) Or can LE access and commandeer those as well? This isn't a question of "Will individuals get their SR bitcoins back?" I know that won't happen, it's more a question of will LE be controlling those and cashing them out for USD, or will those coins be forever lost from the total stock of the (eventual) 21 million?
Two documents have emerged: One submitted by Iras side, one shown by Craig. Craig's document has early Bitcoin mining addresses. The other doc just has a bunch of shady exchange and shady SR addresses. One address (evidence points at Roger) signed a msg calling Craig a fraud.
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